As in all things in philosophy it took long time and me reading 2 books to even understand what was going on. These are wonderful books that gives a summary of philosophical thinking in the West. One should at least should read or listen to one of them, they try to give a brief history from the Greeks to the present day. Philip Stokes's " Philosophy 100 essential thinkers - the ideas that have shaped our world ", from ancient times to present, and Nigel Warburton's, " A little history of philosophy ". It took me longer than usual to summarize this, as it is philosophy, and after listening to something on someone I had to read it, and later listen to it numerous times. I also read other books and wrote on them and later came back to this, because it required deeper thinking. I noticed was that a lot of the philosophers did not write things especially the Presocratics, Eleatics and Academics. But because of the fact that their contemporaries made refere